Would you turn to the Scripture that has been the theme of this time together: Revelation 12, from verse 10?
And I heard a great voice in heaven, saying,
Now is come the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of His Messiah:
for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who accuseth them before our God day and night.
And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their testimony;
and they loved not their life even unto death.
I would like to add to this from Mark 8, from verse 27.
And Jesus went forth, and His disciples, into the villages of Caesarea Philippi: and on the way He asked His disciples, saying unto them, Who do men say that I am?
And they told Him, saying, John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but others, One of the prophets.
And He asked them, But who say ye that I am? Peter answereth and saith unto Him, Thou art the Christ.
And He charged them that they should tell no man of Him.
And He began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders, and the chief priests, and the scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
And He spake the saying openly. And Peter took Him, and began to rebuke Him.
But He turning about, and seeing His disciples, rebuked Peter, and saith, Get thee behind Me, Satan: for thou mindest not the things of God, but the things of men.
And He called unto Him the multitude with His disciples, and said unto them, If any man would come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.
For whosoever would save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life for My sake and the gospel’s shall save it.
For what doth it profit a man, to gain the whole world, and forfeit his life?
For what should a man give in exchange for his life?
Shall we just have a further word of prayer?
Beloved Lord, we thank You that You are here, present with us this evening. Lord, we have been worshipping You, praising You, and thanking You, giving some expression to the adoration of our hearts for You.
Lord, we now ask that You will fill this time with Your power and anointing. Thank You, Lord, that You have won for us all this evening an anointing of grace and power through the finished work of our Lord Jesus at Calvary. You have made that anointing, in its fullest extent, available to us in the Person of the Holy Spirit.
We simply this evening bow before You. We are nothing in ourselves, Lord, but we thank You that You are everything, and all we need is in You. Meet us, Lord, this evening. By Your Spirit, confront us. Challenge us. Meet us, Lord.
Where there is unreality, bring reality. Where there is sham, bring the essence, the substance. Lord, bring us into a new, deeper experience of Your so great salvation, and of everything that our Lord Jesus so dearly won for us.
Into that anointing, grace, and power we stand now by faith, both for the speaking of Your Word, for the translating of Your Word, and for the hearing of it. We shall be careful, Lord, to give You all the praise and all the glory for answering this our prayer. We ask it in the name of our Messiah, the Lord Jesus. Amen.
Well, I have no doubt that you know that the theme of this conference has been, “They overcame.” My responsibility in it is the last of the three constituents in overcoming:
And they overcame Satan because of the blood of the Lamb,
and because of the word of their testimony;
and they loved not their life, even unto death.
Now, my responsibility has been the third of those constituents in overcoming: “They loved not their life, even unto death.” There can be no overcoming of any sort, on any level, without the losing of our self-life.
Our self-life is the biggest single problem in Christian circles. Whether it is in the building of the church, whether it is in the work of God, whether it is in the individual believer’s life—if you and I are not prepared to lose our self-life for His sake and the gospel’s, we get no further than conversion.
We remain converted. We remain believers, born of the Spirit of God, but no growth, no progress, no advance—nothing.
The fullness that the Word of God speaks about—that in the Lord Jesus was all the fullness of the Godhead in bodily form, and in Him you are made complete—remains a kind of motto without any meaning, without any reality, without any experience. It is something we believe in, but something that is a fairy tale.
The unsearchable riches of Christ, of which the Apostle Paul speaks, remain another motto, another sentence of Scripture without any real meaning. We have never discovered the riches. We have never experienced the riches when we have an intact self-life—unbroken, uncrucified, unyielding to the lordship of Jesus.
It is so simple. So much is ours. God has given us not things; He has given us His Son. And in His Son, He has given us everything: unsearchable riches, every blessing.
It says in Ephesians 1, in heavenly places—not just a few, but innumerable blessings in Him. Every need is supplied according to God’s riches in Christ Jesus.
Fathomless fullness. Unsearchable riches. Every blessing. Every need met. But it all remains in the category of doctrine unless you and I are prepared to lay down our self-life.
The problem is our self-life. There is not a single person here this evening, no matter what your ethnic group is, who has not got a self-life. In that body of yours, sitting in that chair, is an uncrucified, unyielding, unbroken self-life.
Maybe some have already yielded to the Lord. They have allowed the Holy Spirit to do His work in them and have moved beyond that stage. But for many of us, we have a self-life that is so powerful it will not allow Jesus to be Lord.
Saviour, yes. We are willing for Him to save us, willing for Him to bring us to a new birth, willing for us to be brought into the kingdom of God. But beyond that, no. We must be in charge of our own destiny. We must be in charge of the way we do things. We must be in charge of our own lives. It is the self-life that is the problem.
Sins can be dealt with. As I said last night, there is no problem there. We can confess our sin, and He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sin, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. But the self-life lies at the root of sin.
“I” first, “I” last, and “I” in between. My life begins with “I,” ends with “I,” and everything in it is an expression of me. That is the self-life.
It is no good saying nice things. That self-life of yours will destroy you. It will see to it that you do not grow in the Lord, that you never enter into all that He died for you to experience. It will make sure that your life is poverty-stricken, entangled with sin, with besetting sin, and a thousand and one other things.
So simple is this matter. They overcame Satan because of the blood of the Lamb, the finished work of the Lord Jesus. They overcame him because of the word of their testimony. And they loved not their lives, even unto death.
It is not just a question of martyrdom, though it may include that. But it is more than that. If you are not prepared to lose your self-life, to lay it down, you will never be a martyr. Give self-life a chance, and it will squirm out of it. You will somehow or other save and preserve your life.
This is the challenge—not of the Apostle Paul merely, nor of the other apostles, but of the Lord Jesus Himself.
It is very interesting. When we look at Mark’s Gospel, he records how Jesus asked them, “Who do men say that I am?” They said this one and that one and the other. Then He asked, “Who do you say that I am?” Peter said, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”
From that point, for the first time, Jesus began to speak about His crucifixion, His death, His burial, and His resurrection. He had not spoken about it before. It therefore came as a great shock to the twelve disciples.
It is interesting, just in passing, that the Lord Jesus never spoke about His death without coupling it with His resurrection. Death in itself was not the end; it was resurrection.
That is exactly the same with you. You might think I am like Jeremiah, sort of keeping on about this self-life being broken, yielded, and crucified. You may say, “Can’t we have something a bit more cheerful than this kind of message? I mean, it is very heavy and very dark—and holiness, you know, wearing black, looking miserable, afflicted all the time. Must we be like that if we are going to be real Christians?”
No, no, no. That is not what we are talking about. Every time the Word of God speaks about being crucified with Christ, it links it with eternal life or with the fullness of life.
Listen to this, the Apostle Paul’s testimony:
I have been crucified with Christ; nevertheless I live;
yet not I, but Christ liveth in me:
and that life which I now live in the flesh I live in faith,
the faith which is in the Son of God, Who loved me, and gave Himself up for me.
If you count it out, you will find one crucifixion and life, life, life, life, life—live, life, Christ liveth in me. It is all there. That is what it is all about.
God does not require you to lay down your self-life to be some miserable, morbid believer that goes round in circles all the time, thinking only of his broken self. Not at all.
The Lord’s whole purpose is that you shall be filled with resurrection power and resurrection life, and the fruit that comes from resurrection life. That is the purpose of the Lord. He wants to swallow up death with life, with the fullness of life. That is why the Lord Jesus challenges us in this way.
Now, Peter was never afraid. You all know that. Of course, it is interesting that he only acted as spokesman to all the rest. It says once or twice in the Synoptic Gospels, “And they all said the same.” But it was Peter who always put his foot in it. He was always the first to speak out, to be straight, to say exactly what he thought.
He took Jesus aside—took Him by the arm, I imagine, stopped Him from walking—and said, “You can’t do this. It is impossible for the Messiah to be crucified. That is not what we are looking for. You cannot do it.”
Jesus, looking him straight in the eye, said, “Get thee behind Me, Satan. For thou mindest not the things of God, but the things of men.”
I want to say something very simple here. If I said something to you, and then I looked straight into your eye when you came with a problem to me and were trying to sort of get out of this thing, and I said, “Get behind me, Satan,” you would go straight to the brothers here on the front row and say, “Never ask that brother to come back and speak again!”
You would say, “Do you know what he said to me? He looked straight in my eyes and said, ‘Get behind me, Satan.’ I mean, I have never been called Satan in my life. I am a child of God. I am a convert. I belong to the Lord. I am born again.”
If He had only said, “Satan is troubling your mind,” I could have accepted it. If He had said, “You are thinking negative thoughts,” I would have accepted it. But to look into my eyes and say, “Get behind me, Satan”—it is too much. How could He do such a thing? I have a reputation. I have rights. It is not right for someone to go around calling me Satan. I do not think I am like Satan.
So important was this matter that Jesus called the whole multitude together with the disciples. No longer was it just the twelve disciples. No longer was it just within the circle of those who were close to Him. Now He brought the whole multitude together, and then He said:
If any man would come after Me, let him deny himself,
and take up his cross, and follow Me.
For whosoever would save his life shall lose it;
and whosoever shall lose his life for My sake and the gospel’s shall save it.
It is interesting, because here the Lord has issued a challenge. It is all to do with the gospel. It is not deeper teaching. It is not something you younger ones can put off for a few years, enjoy yourselves down here—especially your self-life—while you are young and happy, and then later start living properly.
That is not it. Jesus was saying that this is something to do with the gospel. This is something to do with the death, burial, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus.
It was as if the Lord Jesus was saying, “You see, by that death, by that burial, and by that resurrection, I have saved you with a tremendous salvation. But you will never know its outworking. You will never know the full power of it, the fullness of it, if you hold on to that self-life.”
It is utter simplicity. Listen: two words—“Follow Me.” “Follow Me.” In between those two words comes this: “Deny yourself. Take up your cross.”
In other words, what the Lord Jesus was saying to the whole crowd was simply this: if you want to follow Me, there is no other way than the denial of your self-life and the taking up of the cross.
It could not be simpler: “If any man would come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.”
So there is no following of the Lord Jesus without it. You can be a convert and, like Lot’s wife, become a memorial to something that happened—dead. No growth, no advance, no progress, no fullness.
Following the Lord speaks of progress. Following the Lord speaks of advance. Following the Lord speaks of service. Following the Lord speaks of His work. There can be no following of the Lord without the losing of your self-life.
Now let me come back again. I am sorry to speak so boldly, but this is the theme that was given to me. I cannot get away from it. I would prefer to speak about the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony, because it is much more positive. But the brothers gave me this constituent in overcoming, and I have to keep to it. I cannot get away from it.
So if you do not die, I shall be very unhappy.
Listen again: “If any man would come after Me”—and “follow Me.” What is there between those two words, “follow”? Listen carefully: “Deny himself.”
We live in a world of rights. This word is a very interesting word in the Greek. It means: renounce yourself, disavow yourself, disown yourself, give up all right to yourself.
We live in a world of rights. Everything is rights. Trees have rights, plants have rights, flowers have rights, animals have rights, birds have rights, fish have rights. Women have rights; only men have not rights in this world.
Rights, rights, rights, rights. Everything is rights: national rights, political rights, ethnic rights. We are mollycoddled with this word, “rights.” “Our rights. I am not going to have anyone walk over me. I am not going to have anyone somehow control me, or lord it over me, master over me. I have rights.”
But Jesus said there is no way that the fullness of your salvation can become your experience without giving up right to yourself. What did He mean? He meant that He has to be Lord of yourself.
Until you yield the lordship to Him, the mastery to Him, there is a blockage in your spiritual life. You can only advance in knowledge. You can only advance in teaching. You can only advance in those kinds of academic things, mentally appreciated matters. You cannot get to know Him.
You cannot come to know Him deeply, more fully. Deny yourself.
And then again, here is yet another matter: “Take up his cross.” Oh, my word, what we have done in Christian circles over this is incredible.
Some people’s rheumatic pains are their cross. Other people have migraines; that is their cross. Other people have something else. Some people have a husband; they say that is their cross. Some have wives; they say that is their cross. Some have children; that is their cross.
It is incredible to me how we have taken this word of our Lord Jesus and devalued its meaning. The cross is the cross. It is not just an ache here, or a pain there, or a difficult person, or a difficult relationship. It may lead you to the cross, but the cross is the cross.
Jesus was crucified on that tree. How can we devalue such a thing to be an ache, or a pain, or a headache, or a difficult relationship? It is impossible to do it.
His cross. Through much historical research, archaeological as well, we have discovered that generally speaking, certainly in Jerusalem, the stake of the cross was generally in place. The person sentenced to death carried a notice around their neck with their crimes written on it, and they bore on their shoulders the crossbeam. They were led to the place of crucifixion.
This is what the Apostle Paul said when, in 2 Corinthians 1, he spoke of having the sentence of death within ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God Who raises the dead.
It is another wonderful picture of death-life. God Who raiseth the dead—where there is a death, there will be a resurrection. Where you are prepared to lay down your self-life, you will receive it again under new management. You lose your self-life to save it, and the poison in it has been taken out.
Think. I said last night about the cross. Some people think of it as an ecstatic experience. Anyone who has had an ecstatic experience of being crucified with Christ, I can tell you straight away, it is demonic—nothing to do with reality.
To be crucified with Christ is exactly what it says. You are nailed to the cross. In Him, you died. He died as you. And when that becomes a living experience and reality, it is the gateway to resurrection life and resurrection power.
I wish I could make it clearer than the way I am saying it, but it is very simple, really. Paul said, “We have received the sentence of death within ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God Who raiseth the dead.”
We should not trust in ourselves. You have received the sentence of death, and you are on your way to the place of crucifixion.
So once you see this matter and are prepared to yield your self-life—the mastery and ownership of your self-life—to the Lord Jesus, once you are prepared, the Holy Spirit will lead you to the place of crucifixion in practice.
It can be anything. It can be at work. It can be at home. It can be in the church. But it will happen. As sure as I stand here tonight, it will happen. You have accepted a sentence of death upon your self-life, and in that moment the journey begins.
Think for a moment. This word, as I said yesterday evening, translated in my American Standard Version as “life”—there are two words for life in Greek. One is used for spiritual life, for eternal life; the other is used for soul-life, or self-life. This word here is all to do with your self-life.
If any man would come after Me, let him deny himself,
and take up his cross, and follow Me.
For whosoever would save his soul-life, his self-life, shall lose it;
and whosoever shall lose his self-life for My sake and the gospel’s shall find it.
You lose it to find it. It is amazing what the Lord can give back to you once it is under His management. Some things never come back.
When I was a little boy, I had an obsession with scissors. It must seem very strange to all of you, seeing me here this evening, to think that I had an obsession with scissors, but I loved scissors—kitchen scissors, my mother’s cosmetic scissors, shears for cutting plums. I was all the time trying to get hold of scissors.
I do not know why. I had no idea. But I would toddle around with these scissors clasped to my bosom as if they were priceless. Even when I could get hold of shears, I kept them so close to myself as if they were made of gold.
My mother would go round—she called me “La-la-la”—and say, “Give me those scissors.” I would say, “No.” She would say, “Give me those scissors.” “No.” Then she would pull them out. I thought she was a witch. I thought to myself, “My mother is an absolute witch, that she should take something—why? What is wrong with scissors? They are everywhere in the house.”
That did not mean my mother knew that I would never use scissors or shears. What it meant was that they could destroy or injure me at that stage in my life.
That is what happens with the Lord when we lose our self-life. I remember, for years, I never went to a cinema, a movie house. I never saw a film. I even thought television was a little bit spicy, and I would not have it.
Why did the Lord say to me so early in my Christian life, “Give Me this”? I gave it to Him. My sister also. My mother used to say, “I have a monk and a nun as son and daughter. They are so pure.” Little did she know, but still, that is what she thought.
The fact of the matter was, of course, we grew up. The Lord gave us back certainly some things. Some things He never gives back; some things He does. It is a question of growth.
But the great point is this: there is One Who died for you, Who loved you so much that He died for you. In dying for you, He wants everything that is good for you, everything that will be a blessing, everything that will be spiritually useful. He wants everything for you.
When He asks you to give up certain things—a relationship, a friendship, something in the world, or something else; I do not know, it could be anything—it is because He is testing you as to whether He really is Lord.
Dear folks, this challenge of the Lord Jesus is quite extraordinary, because then He goes on as if it is just the gospel: “What shall a man give in exchange for his soul, for his life? What will it profit a man if he gain the whole world and lose his own soul?”
This challenge of the Lord—it is tremendous. No person can follow the Lord Jesus very far before, in his or her path, stands the cross: bloody, inescapable.
If you are not prepared for it, you will remain a convert and never become a disciple.
I mentioned a little about Peter because Peter is the great illustration of this. Peter had a massive self-life. He was not afraid of it. He never hid it. He was never one of these timid, modest people. He said exactly what he thought. He was a rugged fisherman.
His Christianity was self-manufactured. He had walked with the Lord for three years, and he thought that he was the chief disciple and felt that his position was quite clear. He was the one who put into words what the others thought. It was a self-manufactured Christianity.
When Jesus looked into his eyes and said, “Get thee behind Me, Satan,” actually, He was saying the truth. You see, in your self-life, in my self-life, is the poison of hell—the poison of Satan, the poison of the serpent. It is right there in your self-right. That is the Fall. That is the result of the Fall.
That poison in you and me will destroy fellowship with other believers, cause division, cause faction. It will make me difficult to be built with other believers. That kind of poison within my self-life destroys marriages, wrecks families, brings all kinds of problems into being.
Do you remember when Moses met the Lord in the burning bush—that bush that burned with fire? It was something Moses had seen many times. Thorn bushes, dried up, suddenly spontaneously ignited by the sun.
When I did guard duty in the R.V.F., we saw it again and again. I would say to the Bedouin who was with me, “What is that flash of fire?” “Some thorn bush.”
Moses saw this bush burning and said, “Thorn bush gone up in fire.” A few minutes later, he looked back and it was still burning. Half an hour later, he looked back and said, “Good gracious, that bush is still burning.” One hour later, he said, “I have to go across and see this thing. What kind of thorn bush could this be that it burned for an hour?”
When he came near to the thorn bush, God spoke from the ground up to Moses and said, “Take your shoes off your feet. The ground whereon you stand is holy.” Then the Lord spoke to him, revealing His great name: “I AM THAT I AM.”
He told Moses that he had to go to Pharaoh, and Moses said, “I stutter,” which was, of course, nonsense. That is self-life for you. He said, “I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I.” And the Lord said to him, with great humour, “Then take Aaron. He will do the speaking.” Aaron never did the speaking. Moses did all the speaking.
The Lord was not going to stand and argue. Then He said to Moses, when Moses said, “Show me, give me a sign,” “What is that in your hand?” He said, “Oh, that is my rod.”
“What do you do with that rod?” “Well, I sort of prod the sheep, goats, and camels. I use it sometimes to fend off wild animals that attack us in the night. And it is really a symbol of authority.”
Then the Lord said, “Throw it on the ground.” In that moment, it became a sand viper. In the Hebrew, it is a sand viper—the most venomous snake in the Sinai desert. Moses fled. He had been forty years shepherding sheep, goats, camels, and donkeys. He knew very well what a sand viper was.
It was a terrible shock to him. “You mean that rod I have had beside me when I go to sleep has got a sand viper right inside of it? How is that possible?”
Then the Lord said, “Moses, come back. Take up that sand viper by the tail.” I can imagine Moses looking at the Lord and saying, “Did I hear You rightly? I am getting older—eighty. I think You might take him up by the tail, Lord.”
We all know you never take a sand viper up by the tail. But he took him up by the tail, and it became a rod. That rod was the rod that split the Red Sea. That rod brought water out of the rock. That rod did miracle after miracle after miracle before Pharaoh, and right through the life of Moses, forty years before he went to be with the Lord.
What is the picture? Very simple. That rod was the symbol of his divine service. That rod was the symbol of his authority, of his very being, of the person he was. There was a serpent in it, with the venom and poison of a serpent, and he did not know it.
Dear child of God, in your self-life—unyielded, unbroken, uncrucified—there is the serpent. It is Satan, with the poison of Satan.
That poison will destroy your fellowship. That poison will destroy your ministry. That poison will destroy your service. That poison will destroy your marriage. That poison will destroy your home—unless you let it go.
It was faith that enabled Moses to pick up the serpent by the tail, and it became the rod.
Dear, dear Peter—come back to Peter. The Lord Jesus said, “Get behind Me, Satan.” He knew exactly what He was saying. There was within the self-manufactured Christian life of Peter the poison of the serpent.
He even tried to stop Jesus from going to the cross. Yes, he wanted the best for Jesus.
That is why, in one of the other Gospels, the same passage is recorded with this extra statement: “Thou art a stumbling-block unto Me.”
“Get thee behind Me, Satan.” Do you think that you could be a stumbling block to the Lord? Do you think that, in some way or other, the very thing you wish—and He wishes—you could be the destroyer of?
I knew a certain lady—I will not say where, lest your minds get to work—but on this North American continent. She never talked about anything else but about the church. But we all knew she was the destroyer of any possibility of the church in the place where she lived.
She was taken up with it completely. She could give you a whole message on it. But the poison was there.
What did Jesus say? He said this: “Simon, Simon, behold, Satan asked to have you, that he might sift you as wheat.”
It was that incredible time when Jesus was betrayed, and they all fled. The Lord said to Peter, “Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny Me thrice.”
Peter, with all his self-manufactured Christianity, denied the Lord with oaths—three times—before even a little slip of a serving girl, a waitress.
In that moment, the Holy Spirit swept away everything on the surface in Peter’s life. Like a nuclear explosion, it blasted everything to nothing. And Peter wept.
Then Jesus—and this is the amazing thing—Jesus never said a word. He just looked. In that moment, Peter’s eyes and the eyes of Jesus met. He was restored.
This time, another kind of life. He had lost his self-life and found it.
Now Peter could become the chief of the apostles. It was Peter who ushered in, as it were, the coming of the Holy Spirit with those wonderful words that we have in Acts 2. It was Peter who ushered the Samaritans into the kingdom of God. It was Peter who ushered in the Gentiles in that Roman home in Caesarea, filled with Gentile officers and their men.
Peter—it cost him everything. Satan was the agent.
I remember C. T. Studd once said—and got a lot of trouble over it from Christians—“Satan is God’s greatest servant, for everything he ever does, God uses to glory.”
Satan sifted him. Satan got the chaff. God got the wheat.
Now, dear folks, we must finish, in spite of being told that we have ended more early on some nights and being allowed to go our full length.
The fact of the matter is this: you and I have a self-life. What are you going to do about it? You young people, what are you going to do about this self-life? It will be your ruination if you do not do something.
Somewhere or other, you have got to face up to this whole question. You cannot avoid it. You cannot pretend it is not there, ignore it as if somehow or other by so doing you will get out of this problem. You cannot get out of it.
You cannot follow the Lord Jesus unless you disavow and disown yourself, and take up His cross.
We want reality, do we not? We want above everything else to be in a real, genuine experience of the Lord Jesus.
You can never be too young. Just one word to you young ones: I was twelve and a half when I gave myself to the Lord.
It was a few years later—I was devoted to the Lord—but it was two or three years later that I said to the Lord, “Here are the keys to my life. Take it, and do with me what You will.”
You can never start too early. If you will only start right now, God will take in hand your education, your training, your discipline, till you become a disciple.
Of course, we never end being disciples. We are always learning more, always experiencing more of the Lord.
If any man would come after Me, let him deny himself,
give up all right to himself,
take up his cross, and follow Me.
For whosoever shall lose his self-life for My sake and the gospel’s,
the same shall find it.
And they overcame Satan because they loved not their lives even unto death. What are you going to do about this matter?
May God reach every heart. Shall we pray?
Lord, Lord, reach every heart this evening—not only the old, but the young. Help us all, Lord.
We want to know that, Lord, You will have dealings with us this night. Help us, Lord, to be real, to be honest, to be truthful in this matter. None of us want to sacrifice our self-life. None of us want someone else to be Master of our lives.
But, Lord, there is no other way. You have our best interests at heart—our joy, our fulfilment, the fullness of life and power. You have it all in mind. You have glory, glory in mind.
Lord, challenge us and meet us. We ask it in the name of our Lord Jesus. Amen.